I got a private message on one of the boat forums I follow...
Xxxx wrote:Hello James,
I live near Lake Coeur d’Alene in Idaho and own a XX-XX and am considering getting a Captains license to be able to charter my boat out for sightseeing trips on the lake. Thinking of getting the Master license and was looking through posts, saw yours and was hoping to get your thoughts on pros and cons, best company’s to go through for licensing and insurance, etc.
Thank you,
Xxxx
Hi Xxxx,
I'll
give you my experience, though it may not match what you intend to do.
I went to a school in south Texas to get my first license (OUPV) about
20 years ago. We never used our own boats for charter. While you will
be able to write off a portion of the boat expenses, the liability
insurance you will need to protect your assets won't be inexpensive.
Plus - and this is a big deal - we used our own boats for getting away
from people, rather than hauling them around.
I got my Master
license about 3 years after getting the 6-pack, and drove excursion type
boats for companies that I did not own. After years of doing that, I
sold our cruising boat and did not have a boat of our own for several
years (kinda "boated out"). I enjoyed my years as a captain, especially being able to be in
some spectacular places, but I will tell you the challenges, as I do
have friends who do charter work on their own boats.
The
downside: your time is no longer your own. If you do charters, you are
not your own boss, you have a boat full of bosses that change with each
trip. People are not aware of all the potential dangers on the water,
so it is up to you to be responsible for every person on the boat... the
little kids, the old people, the ones who don't dress for the
conditions, the ones who have had too much to drink, people who get
seasick when even stepping on a boat, people who are late, people who
want you to violate the law... I had one guy on one of our whale watch
boats tell me, "There is a BIG tip in it for you if you will get us
right next to the whales."
My response to him was, "That tip
better start at $50,000, because that could be the fine and I will lose
my livelihood, so I may have to come live with you. Oh, and I'm going
to need that cash up front before I make my move to get close."
He said, "I was just kidding."
I said, "I'm not."
I
had occasions where someone chartered the boat and said, "I paid for
this boat, so you'll take us where I say." (Usually said to impress
others in his party - wedding parties, family reunions, etc.)
I
would generally say, "You have HIRED this boat and crew, and once we
push away from the dock, I will be making the decisions. If that
doesn't suit you, we can certainly refund what you paid for the
charter."
I had people ask if we could feed the whales to get
them to come closer. People who asked if they could "toss a line in"
while on a wildlife cruise. People who would try to sneak booze onboard
(check your state laws to see what that might be for a chartered
outing). People who came onboard who had obviously been over-served
before getting to the dock. People who would try to get their schnauzer
onboard by saying it is a "service animal" (you have to be up to speed
on the ADA laws - and there is a difference between a service animal and
an "emotional support animal", which is not covered by ADA rules). I had parents who would let their kids
run wild on the boat, disturbing other guests. People who came onboard
with muddy shoes and stood on the cushions (no, we didn't allow people
to stand on any area used for seating). There were times I had two
charters on the same day, and the first one would show up an hour late
and the second one would be there an hour early... while we scrambled to
get the boat cleaned up and ready to go for the second trip. People
who would charter the whole boat for a family of 5, then show up with 10
people.
Perhaps you can see why I didn't want any of that on MY OWN boat?
You
will be asked to go out when the weather is crap because "This is the
only time we have." You will have people who reserve and then don't
show up when the weather is perfect. You will have people who, even
when told how to use a marine toilet, will try to shove an entire roll
of toilet paper down there. You will have women flush feminine hygiene
products in your marine head that will plug up the line (I had to
disassemble the lines a couple times to remove tampons that had swollen
up to the size of a football, plugging the valves)... even though you
put a sign by the head telling them to put it in the waste basket.
Now,
the majority of people won't be like the above. But, if you drive
boats for hire long enough, you WILL see all of this and more. And, you
won't know which trip it will happen, until you are in the middle of
it. I will state absolutely that what you have done for pleasure (the
reason you are considering this) will become... a job. If you take it
casually, you will still be held responsible for every life onboard.
The
insurance you pay now will skyrocket. If you use your boat for charter
and don't tell the insurance company, they will deny the claim if you
have one. If someone gets hurt onboard, even though you didn't do
anything wrong, you have the potential of being sued. You can have
people sign waivers, but that won't hold up in court.
Now, after
all that, if it is still something you want to do, I suggest you go to
an accredited school that will train you to proficiency, not just teach
you to pass the test. Besides passing the tests, you will have to have
letters of recommendation, pass a federal background check, pee in a cup
for drug testing (you will also have to have some random means of
testing, even if you are chartering your own boat), pass a physical, get
fingerprinted (they will check those records), First Aid and CPR
certificates, and most importantly: have documented sea time. Yes, I am
aware that some schools will tell you you can log hours on your own
boat, and you certainly can (they may imply you can "embellish" - you can't). The insurance company may have a different
opinion of what constitutes sea time. On almost every commercial boat I
drove, the insurance company wanted you to have time on the boat you'd
be driving before being able to assume MIC (Master in Charge). I drove
boats in one National Park that required me to pass a Department of
Interior test - similar to the USCG Master license test for the written,
but also required a practical on-the-water test... six hours of
emergency procedures, fire fighting, man-overboard (first time I was
ever required to tie a bowline with my body in the loop - tied behind my
back - yes, really), etc, etc. For two seasons, I also drove a rescue
boat, and saw lots of things I would not have imagined.
It was
all enough that I went boatless for a few years, and didn't miss it one
bit. My wife wanted us to get another small boat for local sight-seeing
and dolphin watching... just the two of us, no paid passengers. And
having her as my main boss, I said, "Yes, ma'am," and got what she
wanted. Instead of boat cruising for months at a time, we take our motorhome out these days to enjoy land cruising for months at a time.
If you take a captain course and decide not
to charter, you will still learn a lot about safe boating. You
will become aware of all those other boaters out on the water who don't
have a clue about Rules of the Road or any other safety procedures. It
will make you a safer boat operator. I do recommend it. As far as
chartering your own boat, plenty of people do it. Seems the most
successful people running an OUPV operation are small fishing boats (and in our state, also requires a guide license) - that is
beyond my experience, as I am not a fishing kind of guy. Friends and
family enjoy going out on your boat, and you are probably well versed on
the history and scenic areas along the shoreline. They may even tell
you, "You are good at this - you should do it for a living!" How many
would go along if you told them it was $50 per head? If you decide to
offer a "friends and family discount," I'd suggest it should be 20%
additional. Yes, I'm joking about that last part. Only the last part. Does $50 sound like more than most would spend? What does it cost you per hour to run/maintain your boat? Will they sit inside while you narrate? What if they want to sit on the aft deck while you drive? Will you need a second person to keep track of people while you're at the helm?
What do you need for business/tax licenses in your area?
Sorry
I can't recommend any training in the northern Idaho area; the guy who
operated the school where I got that first license has long-since
retired, and the guy who took it over is the epitome of running people
through for the money, knowing that many won't qualify for a license
(not enough actual sea time, mostly). I took the Red Cross CPR training
there once, when he was just finishing up a Master license class... one
guy that I sat next to who had just finished the Master class was
calling himself "a captain", even though he had NO LOGGED SEA TIME. He
has one year to apply to the Coast Guard for the license, but needs 720
days of sea time to qualify. How's that gonna work? Don't spend your
money on a "school" like that.
Good luck with the decisions.
2 comments:
Well - if that is not enough information I do not know what would be adequate. all that being said, I did enjoy your posts when you were working the boats and The Blonde was running the shore end of things. I especially liked the tight docking with big boat on the outside post, I should go find that one and catch it again. I cannot back a trailer, am terrible at docking and have been doing both for over 60 years. Oh well, I can always ask you to take the wheel when we get to the marina. See ya.
Bob Jarrard
Thanks, Bob. Yeah, that got pretty wordy. I have often said, "In my next career, I'm going to be a brain surgeon... because nobody does it for a hobby." ;-) (musician, photographer, boat captain - my 3 main jobs over the years) The docking situation at Friday Harbor definitely kept me on my toes.
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